Exploring Religion and God

Personal Tao - Chapter 33 - Religion

Religion

Being a Taoist doesn’t tie a person down to religion. It’s very possible to be a Christian and a Taoist, or indeed to mix any religion with Taoism.

What is a religion? I define religion as:

A system of belief, attitudes, and practices set towards the service and worship of a God or the supernatural.

The Tao is not God, and the Tao is not supernatural. As such Taoism is not a religion; it’s simply living to your nature with harmony relative to the Tao.

To confuse the issue people have taken Taoism and have converted it into a religion. So while Taoism is not a religion, a religion called Taoism does exist. On one level, these Taoist religions are simply a set of practices that help a person achieve balance within life. The “religious” forms of Taoism take a slightly Buddhist approach in elevating to a “deity” level wise immortal Taoist elders, each acting as guides in understanding the Tao. These Taoist religions are heavily influenced by the works of earlier Taoist sages.

Typically westerners separate Taoism as a “philosophy” and as Taoism a “religion”. This style of separation has been very misleading, as this limits the way Westerners think of Taoism. Labeling leads to missing a whole range of subtleties within Taoism by starting with narrowed, predefined concepts of Taoist practice.

To further complicate everything Taoism has influenced and changed religions such as Chinese and Japanese Buddhism. At times it can be confusing to understand the distinctions between some Buddhist teachings and Taoism itself.

So what would Taoism say about religion in general?

Taoism doesn’t say anything about religion.

My personal view is that all religions are true to the faith which fosters the belief. God, or all gods, are true and are of the Tao when a person’s belief is true to his or her faith. This flows into a concept that all Gods / God are of a personal nature, even when being shared through organized religion. No single religion represents the entirety of humanity, as humanity itself is a spectrum of faith. This overall spectrum blends to create a representation of humanity which is then within and at one with the Tao.

As a result, Taoists aren’t necessarily religious, but typically blend aspects of their religious upbringings and cultures with their practices.

Taoism is more than just a “philosophy” or a “religion”. A Personal Tao shouldn’t be confused with the concept of a personal god. A Personal Tao rises out of all the different concepts of Taoism and should be understood as being:

A system of belief, attitudes, and practices set towards the service and living to a person’s own nature.

 The Question of God

For many, the issues of Religion and God are co-mingled to the point of being simmered down to the question: Does God exist? Many phrase this as a black or white question with definite answers: God either does or doesn’t exist. If you are an atheist, then God doesn’t exist; if you practice a religion, then God exists relative to your belief structure.

Taoism offers the third path: Skip the question! The question of God’s existence is irrelevant. God could or could not exist, and either state doesn’t change the way we lead our lives. Our lives are expressions of action between ourselves and the universe. To respect our surrounding environment is a furthering of respect for ourselves. This manner of living doesn’t change regardless of the nature of God.

This doesn’t make a Taoist Godless; rather a Taoist considers God a wonderful question to meditate against (much like sharpening a knife against a rock) but to put to the side when dealing with daily concerns. This is where the Personal Tao steps into the equation. If a person has faith in a higher being (if they know the expression of their life matters relative to this belief), then it’s acceptable to live to those beliefs. The point where belief becomes unacceptable is upon forcing faith unto someone else or even oneself. Forcing a view typically comes out of an unsurity of faith. Forcing belief is the attempt to keep faith thru a process of action and subjugation. Such actions flow against finding a true Personal Tao.

Poem – Religion

Humanity was given free will

While gods and devils
never turned away
How could they?
never having freedom
always chained
to choices made in the rolling of the bones
our bones
which we toss down
every day

The only gods, the only devils
are those found in mirrors
dogged to our own whims

In prayer
An Iraqi woman cries
as her son is dead
under the stones of bombs
“Where is God!”

Where is God?

God is the dice of our very own bones
being rolled over everyone’s graves

We roll the bones of each other
in games of free choice
Which tumble the fates about
with each and every life,
thrown away,
every day

What choices have you made?
Who’s grave have you rolled over today?

Religious Paths

You cannot be handed the Tao-Te-Ching and magically discover a doctrine of belief. This offers a real problem for a Taoist, as each Taoist must find a personal path and acceptance of inner faith. While Taoist texts will offer hints for living wisely, they will not open up the universe’s door with a set of SUV keys to 4-wheel-drive-thru bramble patches. Instead, these books speak in metaphors: “Flow as a river undercutting around the bramble bush and have a nice day.” Taoist texts will often elaborate telling you: “When falling off a cliff directly into the brambles, consider how amazing and flexible the brambles are in their nature, helping in part to break your fall, then with calmness, let gravity tumble you clear of the brambles”. At this point, most readers stop and wonder what the hell they just read. Some people prefer to be told or taught directly how to live, which many organized religions happily try to do. This means many religious texts will just say “Thou shalt not jump in the bramble bush”. Taoism instead encourages a person just to be themselves and explore the brambles.

The problem I have with many religions is being told directly what faith should be, which ends up as someone else’s version of faith. This, in turn, means people are left to break the tenets of their religious background or belief system, to be themselves. This creates an internal battle between their nature and an imposed outside vision. Everyone has some variation in their being; it’s part of our humanity. Taoism has the advantage of always being practiced to your faith, as you actively pursue what feels right instead of what has been labeled as right. Nothing is more natural than being a Taoist. It’s true to the self. The bigger problem is discovering your nature and what inner faith holds true for you.

My upbringing was Taoist, yet my parents didn’t practice Taoism. My father was an atheist, my mother an animist, and my friends were various Christian denominations. Strangely, my parents and other adults never tried too hard to impose any of their own nature onto my soul. Instead, I was left alone to wander to the whims of my nature. Some days I would just meander along a river all day, some days I would just talk to different people listening to their life stories, some days I would play with the trees, and other days I would explore and mix into the streets of New York City. Since I didn’t cause too many problems, I was returned the courtesy of unhampered freedom. In this wandering, I discovered myself and later realized it was also called Taoism. The path was surprisingly simple. When coming across something that made sense, I tried it. Over time I discarded items which didn’t feel right, discovering the wisdom of newer truths, all the while always permitting myself just to be myself.

I discovered that truth is ever-shifting, based mainly upon perception; living recommends a path of shifting along. Truth breaks when a person doesn’t flow with the reality of the world. At this point, it should be mentioned that we have inner truth and outer truths. Overall truth is the balance between these inner and outer truths. In searching for truth, at some point, a person will encounter religion. No matter how much one searches the outside world, at some point, inner personal questions surface which cannot be resolved by simple observation or interaction with the outer world. Religion is one of many tools which can be used to help find answers to difficult questions.

If you are secure and know yourself truly, and know your faith is true, then skip the rest of this section. Your path is true, and that is wonderful, and indeed you are finding your own Personal Tao.

If you are wondering and have doubts: seemingly can’t find answers that make sense with religions you encounter. Many other people have the same problem. I watch people who try so hard to find a religion that fits them. Looking, trying on churches like clothes, reading different spiritual texts, trying out recommendations of others… looking some more, and then some more and more and more: All the searching becomes “evermore”… Each act of reaching out is like a fly, flies buzzing around, which end up being distractions that we swat away. The buzz isn’t about finding a religion; it’s a search to establish a firm acceptance of ourselves and the larger universe. The goal is a “surety of self” within the tumbling tide of life.

Religions come with a pre-packaged set of practices to help guide one into that surety of self. Of course, seemingly countless religious packages exist. Typically, people make due with something which feels close to the mark or with the religion that was handed to them at the start of their lives. Living like this, just making due, can leave one with constant doubt, anxiety, and feeling lost.

Finding self-doesn’t have to be a process of discovering religion (or scientific facts). Religions (and Science) are both a path to discovering how a person fits in with the world. So to those having problems trying to find something which feels right, the solution is simple: Flip the spiritual quest around and instead spend some time with yourself. Begin writing a journal, which in turn will become a set of personal scriptures to help discover how to be yourself. A person needs only to accept themselves, to find their place within the larger world. It’s accepting the bad -the absolution- which is often the greatest gift of religion. This absolution is the gift of acceptance. A beautiful event within religion is when a clergy member takes the time to accept you first; this makes it easier, in turn, to accept yourself later. It’s a spiritual trick to aid someone to learn how to accept themselves. So the spiritual practice of any religion can be understood as accepting yourself for your own nature, which becomes wondrous upon the acceptance. Religions teach this from the outside while Taoism teaches this from our inner selves. Both paths are options; it’s just a question of how to reach the goal.

Tao & God

Tao And God

I just came across a statement about the Tao and God. The statement put forth was pondering if the Tao is before or after God.

If you get into Taoism, time matters not. The term God is a human word to capture our perceptions of how a larger universe works. God is another distinct topic all in itself. Where people try to “define” a creator or universal power etc., One which people have fought over thousands of years since any definition is an issue of perception.

A Taoist doesn’t think the Tao is before or after God. The Tao is a concept to capture something that goes beyond our capability to define, so you leave the Tao undefined and happily explore the wonder that opens up as a result.

The Tao I can define completely in such a way all Taoist will agree.

 

The Tao is : undefinable…

Something which is undefined: is outside of time by default.

If your definition of God is: that God is undefinable… then yes Tao and God at that point become the same concept, and in being undefinable, a person by definition has to leave it as undefined, since once you slap any definition over it, it isnt that anymore and one misses the point altogether. (From a Taoist perspective, all religious wars are pointless since everyone is arguing over the same thing. The problem is being blinded within perception differences while in fact they are fighting over something undefinable.)

In Taoist Religion, we do have gods, but those gods are very definable: they are enlightened beings who help us lesser beings work towards grace. In this Taoist Gods are not Tao, but definable beings.

We do say in Taoism: We are of the Tao, or a god is of the Tao. But we say that, since in some aspect, we are each undefined: as we define ourselves as we live. So in that Taoism connects Tao to everything… But its a very delicate logical edge. One which confuses people.

The Tao by being undefinable has no issues of perception in the definition since perception cannot touch the Tao which is undefined. It’s just simply and utterly is: undefined.

People are funny when insisting everything must be defined.

A Taoist knows to leave the Tao as is and to grasp the Tao: in the chase of living life fully. It’s a wonderful contradiction to embrace as it completely full-fills one’s life at that acceptance.

From here each person is free to draw their conclusions, which will always shift to the winds of perception.

I hope this confuses you even more 🙂 since half the fun of being a Taoist is to play in the edges of Definition and Un-Definability. I wouldn’t want to clarify something that has kept humanity so busy for so long.

Theism and Atheism

I just be-bopped over to Newsweek which had a debate of theism and atheism. I love how silly we as humans can be. Perhaps both theism and atheism are correct?

*GASP* how can that be so?

Well, why does one have to be better than the other?  Other than to satisfy our own limited capabilities to understand.

Perhaps God is like the debate we saw in physics for 500 years about light: is light a particle or a wave. A debate that ended only because someone answered: It’s both depending on how you measure it. Which means light is much more than only a particle and a wave, it’s something which has characteristics of both. Perhaps God is of the same nature. I could go on and on why this is so, but such arguments don’t matter, as people will always measure God with their own instruments and understanding.

I suspect this answer will be sure to upset most people. And if this answer doesn’t upset you, then perhaps you are closer to being a Taoist than you ever realized.

The most basic truth to this whole debate is as follows:

Until a person accepts themselves that person has no hope to understand God. This is the simplest truth of all.

Religion and Science

Last night Julie and I were talking about how the common problem is that people often limit seeing their life within only a single perspective.

For example only thru a lens of science or only thru a lens of religion. Without some meaningful spiritual perspective mixed in.

  • I quickly commented there is a third lens of “Wotever”.

Spirituality is separate from Science or Religion. Many people make a mistake to think religion is spirituality. It’s more to say religions can incorporate aspects of spiritual practices within them. However, it is common to see people losing touch to the spiritual practices within their religion.

When only embracing science, or religion or a single way to view life, it creates for a very very flat life, a mundane life without depth.

Single perspective lifestyles often lead to spiritual death in a relationship or life. Spiritual death means all motion in life stalls and stagnation occurs in life: everything seems boring or bad at this point.

I teach people how to hold many views, how to weave a life with spirit. Show that our practices are tools to explore life with, where science & religion are merely tools. Spirit is the guiding force behind using the tools. It’s the inspiration for creation in what we make from the tools.

Tools are great; they let us do more but they are not our life in the end. Our heart and actions create our life. Remember to include spirit within your life, with spirit you will discover the wonder and not limit yourself to only one window to watch life pass by from.

Why live life on a bus (a bus of only science or only religion) speeding pass everything? People seem to like looking out of small fixed windows to see limited views outside of their own life. People wishing to be brave enough to skip off the bus to live beyond what literal/dogmatic windows reveal.

Seriously, if feeling trapped, Get off dogmatic mass transportation and take the time to wander in your own life

To discover spirit…

So often the real truth people are seeking, or the solution to large social problems: isn’t for a better science or a new religion to come out. Deep underneath it, all the answer is to engage a spark of spirit to burn brightly.

  • To renew faith in life itself.
Popes and Lamas

Popes

Today’s headline:

Pope Reaches Out to Islam: Controversy Over His Remarks Continues

Being a bit sleepy, I read it as :

Pope Reaches Out to Islam: Converts Over to Islam

I did a double take and then realized I needed some more tea to help me wake up. Now there is an Article I would love to read: I could see it: the Pope confesses his sins and converts to Islam.

Anyways there is a religious saying:

To the pure all is pure

I suppose a Taoist version of this is:

All religion is true to those who hold it as true.

As Taoist, I view religions as being true for those who hold to their faith. In this, all religions roll up into a larger truth, a view of humanity and how we reach and react to the unknown. The point being: Perhaps the Pope is already Muslim, he just doesn’t know it.

Being Born Again Upon Bad Lama Days

At times

Life can beat one down, down to feeling:

Shoulders broken as if from real beatings
everything stripped off
to lose everything you hold to
the only hope being left
is for it all to end… …
and then you cry…
cry so deeply
the tears come from deeper than the gut
you cry and it hurts… yet…

Yet those tears come from deeper
from the light itself
and it turns around as
it feels good to finally
just let go

People think to be strong, is never to let go, never to let one reach this state of being. People are wrongly taught that release is a statement of weakness.

Even people like the Dalai Lama hit days like this.

To hold peace in the soul is to experience
the limits of your soul both high and low.

At times we all re-become as a child again.

Know this secret:

When your time comes along:
Take the time to accept: re becoming a child again.
To start again fresh with new eyes and a new heart

This is what it is to become born again.
It isn’t to get lost in a new religion
That teaches you the words you seem to lack in your heart!

It’s to embrace your heart. Don’t confuse the messenger as the key to your own heart. Instead, it’s to get lost in the new wonder of how you are connected into life itself. You are your own key. Always!

If you are here: then know this time is a time to be re-born as yourself, not as how others tell you to be.

Why should you repeat the past mistakes of your past childhood in your new childhood?

Use the old inner adult to guide your new child to become who this time You would like to be.

To be free.

Taoism Articles
Taoism Articles
, ,
A Personal Tao
path of expectations
Homes, Temples and Passings

8
Leave a Reply

newest oldest most voted

🙂 thanks amazama

the amazing amazama pimpasa gluglu

Nicely said and I don’t think many people could get upset with the way you concluded your view of belief.

~without null there is no one

nicely put Donna 🙂

we all simply are and always return to the Tao. Cheers!

Happy new year, peace and wonder in yours and families journeys!!

When? Well, I grew up in the Presbyterian church, fell away from that as a teen, and tried a couple times to go back to churches when I felt the need for spirituality. But it never took. I got tired of being asked for money, for membership, for having to pledge loyalty to some particular creed or another. I have studied many, many religions since I was a teen and they all seemed to come back to the same basic morality, just different flavors of ice cream, as it were. But really, it’s all the same, and when I found… Read more »

🙂 you have already crossed the line into Taoism a long time ago Donna 🙂

I am curious when did you become interested in Taoism?

I have been pondering why Programmers tend to like Taoism, I wonder if the concept of Null helps out programmers in this respect. I have a new entry which I have been meaning to write about NULL and Taoism for the fun of it.

till laterz

Well, your idea doesn’t upset me in the least, Casey…

Hope your move works out well for you!

We are seriously beginning to figure out the logistics of a move. I will have to chat with you soon about that. Anyways when you get a chance shoot me an email.

For me it really does come down to semantics and each person’s definition of their reality within themselves. Are you really moving out our way?

Menu
Share via
Copy link